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Are we still a Christian nation?

February 14, 2013

To the editor: It seems that the truths of the Bible, written in ancient times, used to anchor our country in a moral society, has been downgraded to where they have become almost meaningless....

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commonman

Feb-27-13 6:20 PM

drn, this is the de-evolution of humans. sorry to say, the internet has emphasized our inability to get along. Like road rage, but worse...

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drnjms

Feb-23-13 4:50 AM

Whats going on in this forum?

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commonman

Feb-21-13 8:16 PM

I am a christian, but my answer is "no". My own experience has been that people will lie; under oath, in court, even if they have sworn on the bible. Trusting someone's conscience over their selfishness is what makes our country so easy to take advantage of.

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bystander

Feb-21-13 10:42 AM

The Pledge of Allegiance was written in August 1892 by the socialist minister Francis Bellamy (1855-1931). It was originally published in The Youth's Companion on September 8, 1892. Bellamy had hoped that the pledge would be used by citizens in any country.

In its original form it read:

"I pledge allegiance to my Flag and the Republic for which it stands, one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."

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rangeral

Feb-18-13 8:52 PM

Talking about it and meaning it are two different things. You like to talk.

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ChrisA

Feb-18-13 7:01 PM

rangeral: OK - then you are an atheist by your constant shrieking about citations for something that happened over 200 years ago.

Of course, atheists always rely on the Word of God as an authoritative source...

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rangeral

Feb-18-13 11:43 AM

OK - then you are an atheist by your constant shrieking about citations for something that happened over 200 years ago.

You may want to have a good clinic check you out for rabid tendencies.

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ChrisA

Feb-17-13 7:02 PM

rangeral: Now that is an easy question to answer - just go back and read what you have posted.

Reviewed and no evidence of religious bigotry

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rangeral

Feb-17-13 5:17 PM

You invented ignorance.

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Really

Feb-17-13 5:09 PM

The way to a greater society is not to "exile" those we disagree with or do not understand. Eugene has it wrong and his assertion that a "minority" of people want to eliminate bigotry, prejudice and ignorance is just that, ignorant.

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rangeral

Feb-17-13 2:54 PM

Now that is an easy question to answer - just go back and read what you have posted.

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ChrisA

Feb-17-13 11:35 AM

rangeral: you of course are a religious bigot.

Evidence?

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rangeral

Feb-17-13 11:09 AM

chris - you of course are a religious bigot.

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ChrisA

Feb-16-13 8:02 PM

ProdigalSon: Your implications are they knowingly acted against scripture while I contend they followed their interpretations of resisting tyranny while respecting the institution of government, as directed by scripture.

Still waiting for the scripture passage that allows Christians to rebel against a tyrannical government...

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ChrisA

Feb-16-13 7:55 PM

ProdigalSon: Provide a citation of the intent of the colonial delegation to defy scripture and revolt.

Is "intent" the new standard for sin? As long as the Founding Fathers didn't "intend" to violate scripture...

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ProdigalSon

Feb-16-13 7:47 PM

Provide a citation of the intent of the colonial delegation to defy scripture and revolt.

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ChrisA

Feb-16-13 7:03 PM

ProdigalSon: Not gonna work. Provide a citation of the intent of the colonial delegation to defy scripture and revolt. Your implications are they knowingly acted against scripture while I contend they followed their interpretations of resisting tyranny while respecting the institution of government, as directed by scripture. You need to show where they conspired against Christian doctrine.

There is no scripture passage that allows for Christian citizens to overthrow a tyrannical government.

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ProdigalSon

Feb-16-13 2:35 PM

'ProdigalSon: Please provide a cite.

Romans 13: 1-7"~Chris A

Not gonna work. Provide a citation of the intent of the colonial delegation to defy scripture and revolt. Your implications are they knowingly acted against scripture while I contend they followed their interpretations of resisting tyranny while respecting the institution of government, as directed by scripture. You need to show where they conspired against Christian doctrine.

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ChrisA

Feb-16-13 11:25 AM

ProdigalSon: Please provide a cite.

Romans 13: 1-7

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ProdigalSon

Feb-16-13 11:08 AM

"How can anyone argue that the United States was a Christian nation when the very act that led to its creation was not Biblical?"~Chris A

Please provide a cite.

Both Old and New testaments contain directives to resist tyranny. I can't pretend to know what was in the heart and mind of G. Washington anymore than you can contend what was not. In all likelihood he was a Deist.

Your grasp on history is weak. Washington was Commander of the Continental Army, not King or Ruler of the Americas. His duties were delegated to him, and those delegating display in their writings that the institution of government is not to be opposed..... but that tyranny is.

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ChrisA

Feb-16-13 9:26 AM

rangeral: First, chris, the United States did not exist at the time of the American Revolution, and the issue was unjust taxation.

Without the American Revolution, there is no United States. Unjust taxation is not a Biblical justification for a revolution.

rangeral: Third, you just like to argue for the sake of argument.

Wrong. I am very selective about which letters I will invest the time necessary for a discussion.

rangeral: The founding fathers wouldn't have let a rabble rouser like you in the front door.

Maybe you should read the First Amendment.

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ChrisA

Feb-16-13 9:22 AM

ProdigalSon: The topic at hand is "Are we still a Christian nation?"

My question is very relevant. How can anyone argue that the United States was a Christian nation when the very act that led to its creation was not Biblical?

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rangeral

Feb-16-13 8:35 AM

First, chris, the United States did not exist at the time of the American Revolution, and the issue was unjust taxation.

Second, I am just a beneficiary of that war, as are you, and neither of us were there to see what was justified and why.

Third, you just like to argue for the sake of argument.

The founding fathers wouldn't have let a rabble rouser like you in the front door.

Now, you might just want to get down on your knees and thank God for being born in this country.

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ProdigalSon

Feb-16-13 8:20 AM

"What was George Washington's Biblical justification for participating in a revolution?"~ChrisA

The topic at hand is "Are we still a Christian nation?"

Try to keep up.

The precursor to our US Constitution was the Mayflower Compact, which contains hard to misinterpret phrases like "Having undertaken for the Glory of God, and Advancement of the Christian Faith,...."

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ChrisA

Feb-16-13 1:24 AM

rangeral: I missed your question to me - was it important?

If the United States was a Christian nation, how can you justify the American Revolution from a Biblical perspective?

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