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Honor our Creator

May 3, 2013

To the editor: In our country, the United States of America, many people pray to God when there are tragedies and believe that even little children are God’s children, lovingly received into HIs......

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rangeral

May-16-13 2:48 PM

What's with this "if you aren't gay or support gay marriage" you are wrong?

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BeefyDaddy

May-15-13 11:52 PM

What's with this "if you're not straight, you're wrong" attitude everyone has going nowadays?

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rangeral

May-14-13 7:04 PM

And you have become ridiculous after your bout with incoherency.

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hartman75

May-14-13 5:08 PM

"...so all the other sexual combinations other than polygamy are OK with you? What about platonic marriages that have nothing to do with sexual orientation?"

rangeral, you have gone from ridiculous to incoherent.

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rangeral

May-14-13 3:16 PM

hartman - so all the other sexual combinations other than polygamy are OK with you? What about platonic marriages that have nothing to do with sexual orientation?

Anything goes but you draw a line at polygamy? You are going to be kicked out of the politically correct club!

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hartman75

May-14-13 12:31 PM

You are being ridiculous rangeral. Stay on topic instead attempting to divert the argument - polygamy has nothing to do with gay marriage.

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rangeral

May-13-13 6:09 PM

hartman - I'll continue to go with the lower case.

I am aware of that ruling and no one at the time said anything about there existing such a thing as gay marriage rights. So you and midwest will support bigamy, polygamy, incest and all the other sexual combinations out there under the guise of civil rights?

Or are you being selective and ignoring the civil rights of these folks? Any thing goes, right?

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Midwest1977

May-13-13 1:26 PM

Thank you, hartman, for providing the reference Al so desperately wanted. I was too busy working all weekend to generate income for my family and pay those taxes that he doesn't want to.

Al, just because the Constitution doesn't say "gay marriage" doesn't mean it's not a civil right. It doesn't say "straight marriage" either.

This argument comes down to one simple thing: What right do you have to tell someone else who they can marry? I am straight, married, divorced, and married again. Am I just as terrible for destroying the so-called "sanctity" of marriage because I have been divorced? I say no. If people can be happy, let them be happy. No one is saying to you, Al, that you must convert to being gay and marry another man. You get to go on living your own life, and it doesn't do anything other than offend your delicate sensibilities.

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hartman75

May-13-13 12:25 PM

I WILL WRITE IN LARGE LETTERS TO HELP YOU READ BETTER RANGERAL.

THE RULING WAS BASED ON THE OPINION OF THE SUPREME COURT IN 1967. I WAS NOT A MEMBER OF THAT COURT. THE ISSUE AND ULTIMATE RULING DECIDED WHAT, IF ANY, CIVIL RIGHTS EXTENDED TO THE MARRIAGE OF TWO INDIVIDUALS. THE COURT DECIDED ALL CIVIL RIGHTS INCLUDED IN THE 14TH AMENDMENT SHOULD EXTEND TO INDIVIDUALS WHO MARRY.

I ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION RANGERAL, SO STAY ON TOPIC INSTEAD OF TRYING TO DIVERT THE ARGUMENT TO AN ISSUE (POLYGAMY) THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH GAY MARRIAGE.

IS ANY OF THIS SINKING IN RANGERAL?

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rangeral

May-13-13 11:26 AM

Your opinion, hartman, as it says nothing about gay marriage, or any other type of coupling based on sexual orientation. Then you would use this to support polygamy?

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hartman75

May-13-13 11:03 AM

In response to a ban on interracial marriage in southern states, the Supreme Court in Loving v. Virginia decided that marriage was protected by the 14th Amendment. “No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.”

By that standard, rangeral, marriage is a civil right.

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rangeral

May-12-13 12:44 PM

I see we still have no reply as to the basis for gay marriage as a civil right, as some claim. Back it up.

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WBL947

May-11-13 1:20 PM

Ranger missed the mark again. If being on social security and medicare makes me a welfare moocher then you are correct. It is gratifying to me that some of my taxes go to pay your medical bills, and are used to help other people less fortunate than myself. Instead of restricting peoples freedom and rights like you and Trudy support, I support the American dream of a good life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

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rangeral

May-11-13 11:09 AM

wbl - pretty obvious you are a welfare moocher.

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WBL947

May-11-13 8:43 AM

So Ranger doesn't wanna pay taxes that support marriages that he does not condone. Certainly he can make a long list of things he does not want his taxes to support. Whaa Whaa....grow up. Welcome to life.

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eburke

May-10-13 6:17 PM

Now that Minnesota is poised to recognize same-sex marriage, other relationships, as I have suggested, deserve equal respect. Bigamy is certainly within the realm since its historical roots go back thousands of years. After bigamy, then other forms, whatever composition, also deserve respect, like three male adults or three female adults. I suggest this because the institution of marriage is firmly on the slippery slope. That is, there is no guiding standard as to what should be recognized, only what feels good and what is right in our contemporary times. As I have consistently suggested, I'm okay with the new world as long as everyone can participate in it.

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rangeral

May-10-13 5:40 PM

OK - I'll bite - where does it say that gay marriage is a civil right? Bill of r]Rights, Constitution, Declaration of Independence, which one?

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Midwest1977

May-10-13 3:34 PM

Al, I guarantee that there are a ton of pro-right ideas out there that are paid for by the taxes of those on the left. Your assertion that not wanting to pay taxes is an OK reason to infringe on another person's civil rights is ludicrous. It is grasping at straws, and that's the kind of logic that gets you labeled as a bigot.

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rangeral

May-10-13 2:23 PM

wbl - I don;t want to pay for gay partner benefits via my taxes. So I am directly affected. If you are still living at home, it won;t impact you but it will your parents.

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Midwest1977

May-10-13 9:13 AM

CONT….. The amendment that was added to the bill also allows for churches to refuse to marry gay couples. So, once again, the marriage equality movement is not FORCING people to do anything. If your church doesn’t want to perform marriage ceremonies for gay couples, they have the RIGHT not to do so. Once again, this is still America. Let’s all just get back to focusing on issues that truly affect the country.

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Midwest1977

May-10-13 9:12 AM

Since the state government is clearly going to pass the same-sex marriage bill, isn't it time for the righties on here to just admit that we've moved into the reality of the 21st century? Al, the only reason people get labeled as bigots is because they insist on forcing their views on others. When the Christian conservative movement tries to put an amendment into our state Constitution that INFRINGES on someone else's rights, that is bigotry. Now, if that same conservative was to say "I don't believe in gay marriage, but I am not going to try to make it illegal", I would not label them a bigot. Narrow-minded, perhaps, but they are entitled to their views, because (GASP) this is still America, and just because gay people are allowed to get married, it doesn't mean that the world is coming to an end. It's time for people to realize that gays are just asking to have the same rights as straight couples, not trying to take away anything of theirs. CONT......

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commonman

May-08-13 6:21 PM

....and I think a better word is "touched", not "blessed".

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commonman

May-08-13 6:19 PM

Westline, another ignorant comment and thank you for wearing that label so proudly. Here's hoping you get a follow up visit from the local law enforcement.

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eburke

May-05-13 8:10 PM

Again, I think religion is simply a diversion from the secular perspective on marriage. I will concede that Western religion has formed the foundation for the marriage institution, but this appears to be a new age, and because so, it is logical to state that anyone who wants to get married should be able to do so. That includes imported marriages, like within the Islamic community, who find same-sex marriage abhorrent, but multiple wives appropriate. I'm not sure why those folks can't have their marriages respected, no matter how unpopular they are. Perhaps the same-sex marriage activists can start advocating for these politically powerless groups.

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WBL947

May-05-13 4:48 PM

Ranger and Trudy, you have represented your opinion very well.

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