A, cuz B was done by Hitler and other dictators.
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Let's imagine...just for fun...that you have two doors to choose from. Walking through door 'A' you enter a world much like today. Walking through door 'B' you enter a world that doesn't allow guns. What would you do/choose?
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Let's see... shooting at anything that moved in the swamp. I certainly hope it wasn't a hunter. And didn't you learn not to shoot at targets on the water with your rifle? Sounds like you didn't pay much attention to your training WBL. The usual rant by prod. Way to correct yourself. I know it's hard for you to stay on course when you are railing against humanity. As a gun owner and hunter, I find you to be an embarrassment.
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That shoulda read "...now that the contention inanimate objects are capable of forming intent to harm us has been put to rest".
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Not hearing much on alternate means of safeguarding ourselves from future rampage attacks, now that the contention inanimate objects are capable of forming intent to harm us. [Guns are evil]
Lets look at the laws we do have. The GFSZ [Gun Free School Zone].
How's that really working out for us?
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In the month of April, there have been more people killed by a crockpot than AR15's.
Not to rub any noses in anything, but check back in these commentary threads, and you'll find where I pointed out that bombs will become our threat. Allowing anti-gun extremists to distract attention from those with intent to harm us to focus on inanimate objects comes with a price. Don't let them lure us down a rabbit trail to ban cookie jars and crock pots.
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Related, I think:
A Gallup poll conducted April 4-7 reveals some interesting perspective on the gun issue.
4% of Americans mentioning guns as the nation's top problem is the same as it was in March, and comparable to the 6% in February and 4% in January and December, the last measure having been taken just after the mass shooting at an elementary school in Newtown, Conn.
Prior to these past several months, in recent years virtually no Americans mentioned guns as the nation's top problem.
Ten percent of Americans said guns or gun violence were the nation's top problems in May 1999, a month after the Columbine High School shootings in Colorado -- and that was the highest percentage mentioning "guns" in Gallup's history of asking the question.
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Today the stake was driven through the heart of the Gun Control Bill of 2013.
This wasn't about safety, it was about control. Now that this attempt to "cash in on tragedy" has been put to rest, I hope some meaningful effort will be put into safeguarding us from future tragedies.
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Make sure you wear a helmet.
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Yup Ranger, I could ride that red Flyer faster than anyone. It had big tires, fenders and a coaster brake. If you had besmirched it I would have shot out your tires. We need guns for self defense.
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WBL - good one except I didn't know you could ride a bike.
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I passed the NRA gun safety course when I was in 4th grade, 9 years old. It opened up a new freedom that every person should have. With my single shot 22 and my bike I could ride into the country and shoot gophers, squirrels, pigeons, and anything that moved. Trying to hit mudhens in the swamp from a grassy knoll was awesome. The albino pheasant I brought home tasted a lot like chicken. Do not take that freedom from us. Oh what fun I could have had with a semiautomatic. This is an American right! I never did bring down any enemy airplanes but was accused of shooting someone's horse. Nope, it was not me.
Common, WTF are you talking about? What "ingredients" Herr. Goebbels, what freedoms do you want banned now? You have some information as to what happened in Boston, then I would suggest the police need to speak to you.
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You are a sick person, common.
That bombing thing in Boston is too funny, huh Prod? After all, we should all be allowed to buy all those ingredients since it's our right. I'm disappointed you weren't there with your cape to protect everyone... Oops, thats right, you are only interested in protecting your personal interests and do not care about collateral damage
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Uncle Joe is 70, although he wasn't 70 until November of last year. Therefore, no SS earnings deduction.
Hartman - the NRA has no legislative or enforcement capability - that is solely in the hands of our police and justice officials -and they aren't even remotely enforcing the laws that are already on the books.
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That Archie thing was too funny, huh h75? It's getting pretty near the end, I imagine a D.C. Mortuary service is polishing up an urn for the ashes of the Gun control act of 2013. Timing is good, isn't it? I mean, what with “Mayors Against Illegal Guns” with egg on their faces...a member has been arrested for using a handgun to try intimidating a young man into sex acts. Mayor in PA had the police bring him a minor, got him drunk and made advances, met resistance, and out comes the 9mm persuader. They've lost a few other Mayors to DWI's and child sex charges, corruption, and, uh, assaulting a police officer. They gotta vote quick or Bloomberg'll be the last man standing. And I think this outstanding bunch is all the support they have.
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And most likely prod has an ffl or a substantial collection of firearms useless for anything but shooting up the nearest school. It's interesting that the pro-gun crowd wants to put the onus on everyone else to screen out the crazy people. Pirate, you did say long gun, not hand gun. And why should I be on the hook for a guy like, maybe prod, who doesn't keep his assault guns secure enough and has them taken and then used to kill innocent people?
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Prod is using Archie Bunker, a character modeled after the prototypical poorly educated, bigoted, biased, self-centered, chauvinist, white male (which, by the way, makes up the majority of the NRA membership) as the voice of reason on gun violence. Brilliant!
SEL is right, the NRA has worked against the enforcement of gun laws AND used their propaganda to marginalize those agencies charged with enforcing existing gun law. Will universal background checks eliminate all gun violence? Of course not, but to sensible folks it serves as the ONLY viable means of preventing guns from being purchased by individuals who are banned from possessing a gun. As gun zealots claim, gun violence is not the fault of the gun – it's rooted in the PERSON with the gun – hence background checks.
In your conspiracy-fraught mind Prod, no agency or group exists which COULD enforce our gun laws without forcing you to seek refuge in your bunker. Gun confiscation – nothing but NRA propaganda!
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Saturday night found SELyonCo watching an old TV rerun of "All In The Family".
As usual, there was a social issue satirized, and Saturday night's issue was gun control.
Gloria: "65 percent of the people murdered in the last 10 years were killed by handguns"
Archie Bunker: "would it make you feel better, little girl, if they was pushed outta windows?"
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"..prohibited the ATF from computerizing purchase records for firearms and required the government to prove that a gun dealer was "willful" if they sold a firearm to a prohibited person."~SEL
In spite of FOPA, the BATFE Firearms Tracing System contains millions of firearm tracing and registration records, and consists of several databases. Illegally. And why would they maintain these databases? Confiscation? The restriction was put in place to prohibit that.
The NICS background check verifies a purchaser IS NOT prohibited from receiving a firearm and by federal law can serve no other purpose. The Tiahrt amendment amends the Gun Control Act of 1968. Not much to attribute rampage killings to.
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Words have meaning SEL, and words form context, and when you quote something, you need to quote it ALL to maintain context.
Prohibited ATF from conducting more than one WARRANTLESS compliance inspection of a licensee in any 12-month period. Why? Seventy-five percent of ATF prosecutions were "constitutionally improper", especially on Second Amendment issues. Dealers that transposed a number were charged with felonies and ruined. ATF was on a reign of terror.
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"You can't enforce the law when you don't have the power to investigate & find violators of the law!"~SELyonCo
...and you think the solution lies in more laws....
In 2010, prosecutors went after only 22 cases of information falsification, claims the Department of Justice. Over 72,600 applications were denied on the basis of a background check. Lying on the form is a felony. The kitchen staff at BATFE could prosecute 22 cases in their spare time. "Lack of staff" is hyperbole. Or lies.
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