If you are not among the over 100,000 killed or one of the millions that are now refugees. The "lessons" of Stalin and Hitler are so easily forgotten.
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Although Pres. Obama would likely want a "do over" on his handling of Syria, the result, as it currently stands, is as good as could be expected. There has been no easy answers from the beginning. Only after military strikes were threatened did Russia force Assad to the bargaining table. What matters most is that the opposing sides are talking and an opportunity exists for a peaceful resolution, not how we got there. A much better outcome is achieved using negotiation vs. force.
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I did answer the question you asked. Now you're asking a different question.
Yes, I could justify it, because it was a choice that he/she would have made, and I would have supported it. Part of being a parent is being willing to let your children go off on their own and pursue their own lives and make their own choices. And no, it wouldn't be easy.
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Scout, way down the commentary, ou observed that Russia was in the driver's. Yes, they are in the driver's seat. Thanks to a blundering fool who is focused only on covering his b__t, and passing the buck to Congress (which in his diffused brain would be the Republicans). The blundering fool's name? Obama. The one thing this country did NOT need was another Carter.
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I will never forget a conversation with an old friend about his time in Vietnam. The news would come on in the US with a government spokesman saying there are no US troops in Laos. My friend laughed and said technically that was true because at the time of the news broadcast we were already back in South Vietnam.
If you as an individual would choose to fight with the rebels and it causes no harm to US interests, that should be your personal option that I would fully support. Unfortunately our government does not allow it legally.
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SEL I admire your conviction and dedication to humanity. I also went back into the service during the build up for the first gulf war. Due to differences in time zones the recruiter's call came in at 5:00am. He said they had an opening but before he would accept my answer he said I have to tell you the battalion commander volunteered us for Iraq. Back in I went, we didn't deploy but made for a few tense months.
No, I don't have any information from the pentagon. I make my statements from their past lies. And from looking ahead. I am sure you had nbc training. Chemicals can be deployed from small arms. Cruise missiles and naval artillery can't find them all. What do you think happens when that first F16 pilot ejects over Syria because of an engine problem ? Boots on the ground to rescue him.
Sorry, that last should start "yes, I could justify the death of one of my children..."
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As to your question, Scout, could I justify the death of one of my children as long as they believed in what they were doing.
This is a mission I would volunteer for if I was still in the service, just like I volunteered (but wasn't sent) to deploy to Saudi Arabia during the Gulf War to help defend Kuwait.
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Scout, you must have a source in the Pentagon giving you information that has not been released to the public, because the public has emphatically been told there will be no boots on the ground.
To answer your question, no, I wouldn't want one of my children on the ground fighting in Syria, but it is a moot point so no-one is talking about putting U.S. forces on the ground in Syria.
As far as the stated mission, to deny Assad the ability to deploy WMD's against his own people, the USAF and USN are more than capable of doing that without a single U.S. service member on the ground. Air and sea power can easily destroy the enemy; you only need ground forces if you plan to occupy the territory afterword.
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Farmkid,another voice who won't answer the question. Let me rephrase. Is the internal Syrian conflict important enough to you to justify the death of your adult son or daughter who enlisted of their own free will ?
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Nobody volunteers to send his/her child. Adults go to war in this country. As parents, you have to be willing to support their decision at that point in their life, whether you agree with it or not. Cut the cord and stop helicoptering your children.
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Don't dance around the point Monkeyman. Is the internal Syrian conflict important enough to you to risk your child's life regardless of their age ? It's a yes or no question.
Scout - Nobody volunteers to send their kids off to fight a war. Last time I checked, you have to be 18 to serve in the US military. Old enough to decide for themselves if fighting a war is what they want to do. If I had a child that wanted to serve and fight I would be proud as he!! that he or she has the courage to do what most other people are not willing to do to protect others.
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Children losing their lives is tragic. But for those who support US military action in Syria I would like you to post your response to this. Are you willing to send your 18 year old son or daughter to be an infantry soldier in this conflict ?? That is the child you raised in your home with an M16 in one and gas mask in the other in support of an internal conflict in a country that would like to see America in ashes. This conflict will not be settled with cruise missiles it will take troops on the ground. Who volunteers send their son or daughter to Syria ???
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Let's look at the facts starting with the WMDs H75 is talking about. Hussein used them on the Kurds in northern Iraq and I believe he used them against Iran in the border conflicts with them. He had them we just didn't find them. What we did find was the scud missiles with chemical tanks ready to load. This was in a country that had already invaded one of it's neighbors that we had relations with. Hussein was rebuilding his military and repositioning for more aggressive action. We also had international support and support at home for military action. The US has zero international support for involvement in Syria's civil war and very little domestic support. As much I distrust Russia they have played this very well. They will maintain good relations with a long time partner, prevent another international conflict and come away looking like first class diplomats.
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Hartman, keep in mind those worthless, sniveling, duplicitous, parasites are only able to cause the harm and national embarrassment they do because under-educated, misinformed, misanthropic, "patriotic", "Christian", wanna-be millionaires (and a few real ones) keep electing them.
If not for those deluded voters we wouldn't have to cringe watching Michele Bachmann make a fool of herself while embarrassing the nation talking to the Egyptian people like they're a bunch of developmentally delayed first graders.
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SEL - I hope that was sarcasm - you couldn't be that dumb.
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Good points SEL.
Isn't it odd that the same individuals who were all for invading a sovereign nation on just the suspicion Weapons of Mass Destruction existed can't justify ANY response to a nation actually using WMD's.
It's evident Republicans will do everything possible to obstruct - even if it has the potential to weaken America's global influence. They are nothing but a worthless bunch of sniveling duplicitous parasites posing as Legislators.
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I find it very disturbing that some people are so quick to seize on semi-truths to justify turning a blind eye to a nation gassing their own people. We're okay with kids dying twitching like bug-bombed roaches because some (like 15%) of the rebels are backed by Al Queda.
To continue Al's WWII analogy, he might not be the neighbor shipping kids off to the gas chamber, but he sure would have been the one saying "not my people, not my problem".
As far as Russia goes, I believe they are merely acting as a broker between Syria and the US for implementing Kerry's idea, aren't they?
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Al, You of all people have no business asking anyone if they think before they post.
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blasphemer - correct me if I'm wrong but I believe the crusades were over 700 years ago, followed by the muslim empire building and similar atrocities. When did you ever hear me say either of these was acceptable human behavior?
You should be ashamed of yourself.
I guess I wouldn't have wanted to be a Jew living in Germany during WW2 and having you for a neighbor so you could put me on a train headed for the gas chambers.
Do you ever think before you post?
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Cosidering the fact that he either is lying or making excuses or blaming others everytime he opens his mouth it was what I expected.
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Al, Christians? Who gives a bleep what they are?...They are "people" first. Your stupid comment brings a little thing called the "Crusades" to mind.
Pretty much anytime you put "president" and "obama" in the same sentence, I am dissatisfied.
He’s placing the blame on Congress without acknowledging its authority for a military act that isn’t war, in pursuit of a goal he doesn’t explain, over a duration that is not short but not long, which will be no more than pinprick but less, one assumes, than a shaving cut.
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