Nice your so easily entertained Hartman. Personally I think it is sad that the good parts of health care reform are in jeopardy because Obama had to go for broke and try to change it all in one major bill.
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The clip of Nancy Pelosi saying "you need to pass this bill so you can find out what's in it" is still on you tube. Just google it. Do you really think all of congress read the thousands of pages in it before voting ???
Scout, your last comment was entertaining but far from the reality of how the Affordable Care Act became law. Personally, I'd look for a more reliable source for your information.
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Very few, democrats or republicans, were allowed to participate in writing this "law". Reid and a few select wrote it behind closed doors only months after Obama promised an open government. Most didn't even know what was in it when the vote took place. Pelosi and Obama told them to line up and vote yes and that's what they did. I fully support a forced government shutdown over something as corrupt as this. The only problem is Obama is directing the shutdown to make it as painful as possible for the people.
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You must have sampled the Koolaid Scout, since you seem to know its effects. I prefer adult beverages.
The "plan" you referred to has been a law for the past 3 years. Republicans chose NOT to participate in the formation or passing of the law - that was their choice. Republicans have the right and ability to request changes to whatever law they don't like. But forcing our government to shut down to affect that change is wrong. The longer the shutdown goes on, the more obvious it is Tea Baggers are too stupid to grasp the negative consequences.
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Hartman you really have to stop drinking the party cool aid. This is not a democrat verses republican issue. The administration would have you believe it is but it isn't. I have been a registered democrat since 1978 and even I can see this plan is wrong. If you want some history what about Clinton's democrat backed retroactive income tax. Talk about slimy legislation.
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Republicans could only justify a government shutdown IF their dispute concerned a budgetary matter. It does not. Tea Bag Republicans are attempting to change an existing law, a law that has been upheld by the courts. Republicans had opportunities to bring their “defunding” legislation before the Senate long before now. Their current actions are nothing short of coercion. In the future would Democrats be justified shutting down the government by forcing Republicans to pass more restrictive background check measures? We should never allow special interest groups or political party's to use blackmail to change legislation. The self avowed Congressional Tea Baggers claim “Obamacare” could hurt America. In actual terms, the Tea Baggers futile actions will unquestionably hurt America. They are either ignorant of the consequences or too stupid to care. I'll go with the latter.
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We have a shutdown because of a dimwitted president who doesn't play well with others. Many companies are exempted and all others have a 1 year delay. Only the individual citizen is being required to comply with this government sponsored robbery.
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And now we have a shutdown because of a few dimwitted *********s and a speaker that has NO clue how to do his job.
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The Dems call it a subsidy because the poor staffers can't afford the premiums - but the general public can?
And why does Congress and key White House folks need the subsidy - they already make substantially more in pay than most of us.
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Congress and Congressional staff are not exempt and they are required to purchase their insurance through the exchanges. They can; however, still receive a contribution from the federal government just like they would if they were to receive "company" benefits. People, do your research. There is no exemption. Stop believing the rhetoric and read the dang law.
They gave themselves a pass because they know it's a bad deal. Only good enough for the ones they dictate to and oversee. They can't be held accountable and they know it.
Why does Congress and the Executive Branch and their staffs get subsidies that the rest of us don't get? What is truly amazing is that the Dems who voted in this law give themselves a pass.
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It is being polled 3 years later because it stinks ! It was written behind closed doors and rammed down our throats. Nancy Pelosi stood on the senate floor and said, "you need to pass this so you can find out what is in it". Obama is supposed to be for the people yet the people are the only ones who will get fined if they don't buy it. 100's of corporations were given exemptions unions were exempted, now companies have been given another year to comply, BUT if you the individual don't comply the IRS will fine you. Sounds like big business and small business has got Obama in their pocket. He is just sticking it to the average worker again.
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OIIOHH, Funny how the healthcare LAW is the only law in history that gets polling 3 years after it passed. Why? Hundreds of millions of dollars spent by the right, tens of thousands of taxpayer paid hours, all used to fight something after the fact. How does the polling fair when it is called the ACA, not Obamacare? Where is the polling on no lifetime limits, no exclusions on pre-existing conditions, 80% of premium mandated to be spent on actual care?? 70%? more?
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Gosh Hartman, sorry to hear that you can’t defend the President’s record and instead you must attack ME. Sorry, Hartman…
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OIIOHH's overall comment approval rating: -6.5%
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Owe’BummerCare – so unpopular that the President is still on the campaign trail three-and-a-half years later trying to sell it to Americans.
The President’s current job approval rating: 44%.
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The Heritage Foundation developed the individual health care mandate and supported Romney’s plan for Mass., which was the basis for “Obamacare”. Republicans understand Obamacare benefits the American people which goes against their publicly stated goal of seeing Obama fail. By spreading misinformation, Republicans are hoping Americans are stupid enough to believe their lies. The Affordable Care Act is not perfect nor does it provide free healthcare. It does assure accountability by mandating everyone pay into a system we all use.
Instead of working on Immigration reform or Farm Bill, Republicans are willing to shut down our government putting at risk families whose livelihood is provided by their govt. job and jeopardize America’s future and workers retirement savings by threatening not to raise the debt limit. If Republicans really believe Obamacare will fail, then it should be allowed to fail on its own. Republicans should either get back to work, or get out.
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Obamacare the biggest lie perpetuated on the American citizen by the best political liars that have been voted in. Its right up there with global warming.
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OIIOHH, WBL actually "researched" the Health insurance. Did you?
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HILARIOUS!! wbl BUYS NOTHING and receives NO SERVICES, and yet feels qualified to comment on the “health insurance marketplace”?
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I just spent some time looking at the Minnesota health insurance exchange. It is in my opinion very user friendly, easy to understand, clear and concise, and a much better way to shop for health insurance than my past experiences of having a salesman try to sell me insurance. There are so many positive things happening in health care insurance now because of the health care bill.
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